[Download this episode](http://www.buzzsprout.com/15622/129988-bootstrapped-episode-25-devil-s-advocate.mp3 "Bootstrapped.fm, Episode 25, Devil's Advocate"), in which we talk about dollar stores, dogs and babies, the new Helpspot release, support contracts, requiring a credit card at signup, pricing and recurring billing, info-products, SaaS being unsatisfying, digging new holes, the point of growing, all software going to zero. [Helpspot](http://www.helpspot.com "Helpspot") - Ian's helpdesk product. [Snappy](http://besnappy.com "Snappy") - Ian's newest product. [Uberdeck](http://www.uberdeck.com "Uberdeck") - Andrey's mobile-app marketing product. [Stripe](https://stripe.com/ "Stripe") - payment processing service. [Star Trek Generations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Generations "Star Trek Generations") [Ian's "all software is going to $0.00" theory](http://discuss.bootstrapped.fm/t/on-the-commoditization-of-software/728 "Ian's All Software is Going To Zero Theory") [Edge of My Seat](http://www.edgeofmyseat.com/ "edgeofmyseat.com") - Perch, Rachel Andrew, Drew McLellan [Rachel Andrew](http://bootstrapped.fm/bootstrapped-episode-17-special-guest-rachel-andrew/ "Rachel Andrew") on Bootstrapped.fm [SupportOps.co](http://supportops.co/ "Support Ops") - Chase Clemons [Chase Clemons](http://bootstrapped.fm/bootstrapped-episode-18-special-guest-chase-clemons-on-bootstrapped-support/ "Chase Clemons on Bootstrapped.fm") on Bootstrapped.fm [So You Want To Be A Wall Street Programmer?](http://www.amazon.com/You-Want-Wall-Street-Programmer/dp/1847284213/ "So You Want To Be A Wall Street Programmer?") - Andrey's Book [Ian's newsletter](http://www.ianlandsman.com/page/list "Ian's Newsletter") [SuccessfulSoftware.net](http://successfulsoftware.net "successfulsoftware.net") - Andy Brice [Andy Brice](http://bootstrapped.fm/bootstrapped-episode-21-special-guest-andy-brice/ "Andy Brice") on Bootstrapped.fm [Discuss this episode with other bootstrappers in the forums.](http://discuss.bootstrapped.fm/t/bootstrapped-fm-episode-25-devils-advocate/751 "Discuss this episode on the forums")
Download this episode, in which we talk about dollar stores, dogs and babies, the new Helpspot release, support contracts, requiring a credit card at signup, pricing and recurring billing, info-products, SaaS being unsatisfying, digging new holes, the point of growing, all software going to zero.
Discuss this episode with other bootstrappers in the forums.